htpc won't boot w/touchscreen [Archive]

skawtee

01-28-2010, 07:20 AM

Hi guys, i have a thermaltake DH 102 w/7in lcd touchscreen. primary display is panasonic plasma tv connected to nvidia gt240 card by HDMI. touchscreen is connected to same card w/ vga. the system will not boot or even post when lcd is connected to evga GT 240 vid card.

if i unplug touchscreen vga cable, system will boot fine. after system posts, i can reconnect vga cable and all continues to boot and work well. i just can't boot with touchscreen connected. have all latest drivers/updates on windows 7 ultimate x64.

i have tried dual monitors, one hdmi, one vga, and have no problem. it is only the touchscreen that seems to be having problem. I can't even boot the system with only the touchscreen connected as primary display.

please help

thermaltake DH 102
asus maximus II formula
intel q9550
8 GB G.Skill ddr2 800
evga GT 240 512MB
blu ray/dvd combo drive

Zajs

02-11-2010, 10:21 PM

I have same problem, my configuration:
thermaltake DH 102 htpc case w/7in touchscreen
MB Asus Rampage II gene
6 GB Ram
Core i7 920
GeForce GT240 Sonic

I have External LCD Poster and i see "VGA BIOS" on it, when system won't boot.

Zajs

02-11-2010, 10:22 PM

falcron

06-03-2010, 11:32 PM

I have this problem with an XFX GT240, in addition to a Galaxy GT240.

DH 104 case.

I think this is an issue with the GT240s? I got around it (only works with galaxy gt240) by using a DVI -> HDMI adapter and now the system will post. However, all other configurations and cards won't boot unless I unplug the VGA and plug it in after POST.

This is a massive, and huge issue that needs addressed.

GordonBoy

08-20-2010, 02:54 AM

I have the same problem when I switched my Graphic Card from Palit GTX 465 to
Palit GTX 480.

Pls help!!

Silverstone GD-02MT
Asus Rampage Gene III
i7 930
6GB DDR3 1600mhz
Palit GTX 480

johnny.hur

08-30-2010, 05:53 PM

Dear All,

I’m sorry for the late reply.
I think that this problem may be related with the specific Graphic card. If possible, please check if it happens on “HDMI+D-Sub”, “DVI+D-Sub” and “D-Sub only” and let me know the difference.

Regards,
Johnny Hur

Rufus

09-19-2010, 05:32 AM

is there already any solution?

same problem for my configuration
- Thermaltake DH202
- Asus P7P55D-E
- Intel Core i7-870
- GeForce GTX 465

I have tested “HDMI+D-Sub” and “D-Sub only”: There is no difference, when the touch screen is connected the system is not booting.

dude140678

09-24-2010, 03:37 AM

I had the same problem today. System is an Asrock A330ion.
The Problem seems that the graphic card tries to use the touchscreen as primary display.
Thats not working so the computer won´t boot. I could fix it by setting the primary video output to hdmi in the bios because it´s an onboard graphic card. I don´t know if it´s possible for your system.
If you could not tell your graphic card NOT to use the dsub as primary output during boot your pc won´t boot.
Hope this helps

Redrockit

10-06-2010, 04:26 PM

same problem here

Redrockit

10-07-2010, 03:07 PM

i read in others forums, pc isnt booting because the display doesnt support EDID. maybe someone can check this

Zylex

11-21-2010, 12:58 AM

same here on my GTX480. with the integrated i5 iGPU it works, but with the GTX480 I have to connect the LCD after the first initialization of the bios, but then the display works normal.

damn, its not very funny to plug the lcd in and out every time I boot. if I boot with the LCD plugged-in, the display shows "unsupported" and the pc doesn't boot. any chance for a firmwareupgrade?

26196008

11-22-2010, 03:23 AM

same problem here - GT 430

any workaround without unplug display while booting

Regards
Marc

Ardito

11-26-2010, 05:27 AM

Same issue here.

Case SilverStone Grandia GD02-MT
MB Asus Rampage II Gene
Nvidia GeForce Gtx 460 / ATI Radeon HD 5850

Tried any combination of dvi ports + vga adapters with no luck.

Please help!!!

scorbett

12-04-2010, 05:14 PM

I have just upgraded my nVidia Geforce 7950GT graphics card to an nVidia Geforce GT 430 and now I have the same problem. Everything worked with the old graphics card. Now my computer won't boot if I have the SG7 Touch Screen connected. No problem booting if I disconnect the touch screen leaving only my HDTV connected (via HDMI). The touch screen also works fine if I connect it after the computer has booted into Windows.

I have tried disabling the "Press F1 to continue on error during boot" setting in my BIOS to see if that helped but it still doesn't boot.

Is there a solution yet?

Zalman HD160XT Plus HTPC Case (with SG7 monitor inside)
Asus P5K SE/EPU Motherboard
Zotac GT430 Graphics Card
Windows 7 64bit

vcsl

12-15-2010, 04:46 PM

I have the same problem when I switched my Graphic Card from ASUS EN8600GTS (GeForce 8600GTS) to MSI N480GTX-M2D15 (GeForce GTX480).

Pls help!!

Thermaltake <VH2001BNS> DH102 (Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W)
ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution
i7 950
12GB DDR3 1600mhz
MSI N480GTX-M2D15

SpamKiller

12-21-2010, 11:28 PM

Ardito

12-24-2010, 04:51 PM

Hi @all,

I had the same Problem but i've got some idea....

If your Card have 1.DVI 2.VGA 3.HDMI then get an adapter for DVI to HDMI.

So you can connect your HDMI-TV to first DVI and the Display on VGA.

If you restart now the PC the problem is solved!!!

CU
SpamKiller

But audio over hdmi is lost, right?

If so, it isn't a good solution for me...

Thanks anyway, it may be helpful for someone.
Ardito.

joethefox

12-25-2010, 08:13 PM

Maybe I found the problem. If I connect the monitor to my laptop vga out (GeForce 9600M GT) and query the video card from a linux console I got this output:
$ disper -l
display DFP-0: Seiko/Epson
resolutions: 320x175, 320x200, 360x200, 320x240, 400x300, 416x312, 512x384, 640x350, 576x432, 640x400, 680x384, 720x400, 640x480, 720x450, 640x512, 700x525, 800x512, 840x525, 800x600, 960x540, 832x624, 960x600, 896x672, 928x696, 960x720, 1024x768, 1152x864, 1360x768, 1280x960, 1440x900, 1280x1024, 1400x1050, 1600x1024, 1680x1050, 1920x1080
display CRT-0: HAI SG7
resolutions: 0x768, 320x240, 512x384, 680x384, 640x480, 720x450, 800x600, 1024x768 while if I query from the NVIDIA GTS450 (my htpc thermaltake dh202 7'' touch) the output is:
$ disper -l
display DFP-1: Panasonic-TV
resolutions: 640x480, 720x480, 720x576, 1280x720, 1920x1080
no resolutions found for display CRT-1, falling back to: 800x600, 640x480
display CRT-1: HAI SG7
resolutions: 0x768, 640x480, 800x600 This message "no resolutions found for display CRT-1, falling back to: 800x600, 640x480" is the candidate who makes the boot process to fail when there are connected to the video card both vga + hdmi? If yes, mine is only a hypothesis, is this a lcd touch firmware bug? the second hypothesis could be a bug in the latest video cards ... :rolleyes:

joethefox

12-25-2010, 09:17 PM

:mad: NOPE!
forget last post, with GTS450 I could not get lcd display info because there was this option in xorg.conf:
Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"
setting it to "true" the new command output is:
$ disper -l
display DFP-1: Panasonic-TV
resolutions: 640x480, 720x480, 720x576, 1280x720, 1920x1080
display CRT-1: HAI SG7
resolutions: 0x768, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 so lcd has answered, maybe the 0x768 resolution is the issue?

joethefox

01-03-2011, 06:59 PM

Ardito

01-19-2011, 12:30 AM

Dear all,
with the DVI to HDMI adapter, like SpamKiller says, my problem is finally solved: the audio through the DVI output works fine! (I don't know how audio is streamed over DVI, but it works!!!)!

I've just tried this solution (dvi to hdmi). My system doesn't boot... :(

I guess the only solution for me is to try another mobo. Maybe I'll leave front display disconnected.

Cary L. Brown

02-14-2011, 01:10 PM

Just for comparison, I have a system built in the Zalman HD160XT Plus... which uses the exact same kit you're talking about. My motherboard is the MSI KD7 Neo4F (v 3.0), with an Athlon 64 X2 (4200) and 4GB ram.

My system connects to one of the HDMI 1.3 inputs on my Pioneer 1019 receiver, then out to my Samsung 7000-series 42" TV, also by HDMI 1.3.

I recently replaced my older video card, an Asus Geforce 9600 GSO, with an Asus GT430. I've noticed only one change but it might be relevant.

With my old card, my system would always boot up to the VGA port of the video card (and thus to the Soundgraph front-panel monitor). Only once Windows started would this switch to have the VGA port be screen #2.

Now, with my new card, I do boot to "screen #1" (the receiver and TV) automatically.

The ONLY CHANGE was the video card itself... no BIOS change, no OS change, no driver change... ONLY the physical card itself.

I have the same video chipset as some of you, but I'm not seeing the same troubles you guys are... which would no be the case if it were a chip-level issue.

This strongly infers that the problem lays within specific video card firmware, doesn't it?

I'd be very interested in learning what your card manufacturers have to say about this!

Zylex

03-08-2011, 03:57 PM

Hi there.

The solution (DVI->HDMI) worked for me. My GTX480 has 2 DVI-Ports and one MiniHDMI-Port. After using the lower Port for the DVI-HDMI-Adapter it worked. If I use the other DVI-Port or the MiniHDMI-Port the PC won't boot.

So if you try it, try all DVI-Ports.

My (working) config looks like this:

[MiniHDMI] <- empty
[DVI] <- DVI to VGA Adapter -> LCD-Tochscreen
[DVI] <- DVI to HDMI-Adapter -> HDTV

mws

03-22-2011, 03:47 PM

Hy Guis,

I have the same Problem here with a Zotac GT430 Zone Edition. This seem to bee the only passiv cooled NVidea GraphicsCard using the 3D features from Blu-Ray.

However I Have a DVI, a DisplayPort and a HDMI Connector. Would it be possible to use an DisplayPort-VGA Adapter and connect the TV via HDMI because I'm not sure if the Sound will be send via DVI from my Card if I use an DVI-HDMI Adapter. Also I had to use two Adapters DVI-HDMI and DisplayPort-VGA. Here the adapters as as expensive as the whole Gard :(

An other idea is to use an seperat pci vga adapter for the Touch Sreen, has anybody tried this?

However, what I don't understand is why does the Touchsceen not show the boot Sreen? It is an VGA Monitor, isn't ist?

mws

mws

03-22-2011, 08:50 PM

PS: Has anybody tested this with an Radeon HD5570 for example?

XiaNYdE

04-02-2011, 09:32 AM

Same problem here DH102 Case and Gigabyte GTX460 GFX Card, creates a non-boot combination. There needs to be a way to nominate the LCD Touch Screen as secondary prior to boot up.

Works fine if i move the VGA to secondary DVI input, however i can't fit the HDMI in then :(

ptolamy

04-13-2011, 03:47 AM

I'm using an ASrock x58 mobo, nvidia gtx 460, samsung primay screen (via hdmi) and thermaltake dh202 7" front screen (via vga). Pc will boot fine with just the HDMI connected but will not post with the vga 7" screen attached too.

Woeful :(

Have ordered a dvi to HDMI adapter to see if that solves it. Will continue to follow this thread.

TheChief79

06-30-2011, 03:39 PM

Is there any useful solution yet?

I have a ENGT520 in my HTPC. I connected an Onkyo Receiver on the HDMI port and the built-in Touchscreen of DH102 to the VGA port (also tried DVI port). If the Onkyo is switched off or is not connected, my system doesn't boot and the touchscreen shows "Unsupported". If i connect another Monitor to the VGA port, everything is working.

@Soundgraph
Whats wrong with the Touchscreen? With my older GT220 i could boot the system without any problems. Is there anything, what we can do? Do you have any replacement/spare parts for the touch screen? The case was not cheap and i dont want to throw it away and want to use the touchscreen!

timetofly06

07-04-2011, 07:47 AM

hi
same problem with a Gainward GFX 560TI with native d-sub and HDMI ports.
My case is a Zalman HD160XT Plus

The only solution I found : match power button with hibernate state ... :(

pur_berger

08-03-2011, 04:15 PM

http://www.soundgraph.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19139#post19139

regards

Markus

spannow

08-04-2011, 05:00 PM

You can also do the same using vga
Buy a vga extention cord or "gender changer" as extention.
e.g.
http://www.allekabels.nl/Monitor-/-VGA-Kabels/19/961/VGA-Gender-Changer.html (gender changer)

Then remove the pins.
I think it is pin 11 and 14 but I am not sure about that. :eek:
I had them removed and it worked.
Maybe someone know that part better :D

TheChief79

08-10-2011, 07:05 PM

http://www.soundgraph.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19139#post19139

regards

Markus

Thank you very much! That solution works for me! :)

Best regards
TheChief

gaudibursch

09-06-2011, 01:07 AM

Hi Guys,
my new case with the LCD touch has the same boot-problem.

i start the pc, the backgroundlight from the lcd is on, after 15 sec. textmessage: "unsupported".

Thats all, no boot, no windows, no funktion! - and no fun with my new htpc!

my system
case: Luxa2 LM300 ProTouch
MB: Asus Sabertooth 55i
CPU: Intel i5
GraphicCard: Asus GTS 450

Testings: only LCD on VGA, LCD on DVI per Adapt., LCD on VGA and my LCDTV on HDMI - its alsome the same!: no booting

please help me.